tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post5622652102088817181..comments2024-03-28T16:00:02.364+08:00Comments on ROBIN WONG : Huawei P9 Camera Review - Is This The Photographer's Smartphone?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-89629418002675355582018-04-01T14:59:00.012+08:002018-04-01T14:59:00.012+08:00wow man what a shoot,i am loving itwow man what a shoot,i am loving itfanofgkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14159686634738639582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-80297528556462832872017-09-13T12:45:04.554+08:002017-09-13T12:45:04.554+08:00Hi Robin,
From some of your photos, I notced the c...Hi Robin,<br />From some of your photos, I notced the caption like: 1/33sec, ISO320, DOF Control at F0.95<br /><br />When using DOF feature, how were you able to control the speed (1/33sec) and ISO (320)? Whenever I tap on the DOF icon, I am not able to use the PRO mode.<br /><br />TIA.<br />aquavisionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01198527624516248667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-44267187980284318722017-03-24T08:41:50.264+08:002017-03-24T08:41:50.264+08:00Great photos Robin!
And this blog entry is just w...Great photos Robin!<br /><br />And this blog entry is just what I am looking for, a review from a non techie photographer. Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16692606341954386377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-59667315268635463412017-03-24T08:41:37.186+08:002017-03-24T08:41:37.186+08:00Great photos Robin!
And this blog entry is just w...Great photos Robin!<br /><br />And this blog entry is just what I am looking for, a review from a non techie photographer. Big Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16692606341954386377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-27071819673930797632017-03-05T15:49:58.346+08:002017-03-05T15:49:58.346+08:00Hi Robin, did you develop your photos? Wonder how ...Hi Robin, did you develop your photos? Wonder how is the quality of its printed photos?Tze Yinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13459734811842166202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-10631547302622126142016-10-21T01:14:28.049+08:002016-10-21T01:14:28.049+08:00Hi Robin. I loved your review of the P9. I also us...Hi Robin. I loved your review of the P9. I also use the phone and am impressed by the cameras. Its interesting how tech blogs and photography pros like Kristian Dowling, and yourself differ in the camera reviews. I would tend to put more weight with you guys, since you do this for a living. I was wondering, in your opinion how much did Leica involve themselves into the camera. One reviewer wrote off the camera as a marketing gimmick with Leicas name slapped on. Nothing more. Unk Ownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08075142312892729736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-47908340853524223302016-09-12T16:18:40.386+08:002016-09-12T16:18:40.386+08:00Robin do you think that because the lens is only 4...Robin do you think that because the lens is only 4.5mm so a 6x crop factor that ideally your needing to use shutter speeds around 1/100s. One thing I wish they could implement in the settings is a minimum shutter speed. I have found I can get sharp images around 1/50s if I am carefulAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04049595073945422693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-22116893869913207442016-08-26T05:28:18.865+08:002016-08-26T05:28:18.865+08:00Hope you have a fun packed weekend Robin. Look for...Hope you have a fun packed weekend Robin. Look forward to the next installmentAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04049595073945422693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-90945023883151721742016-08-25T11:04:20.188+08:002016-08-25T11:04:20.188+08:00Hey Martin, I will be shooting this weekend, so I ...Hey Martin, I will be shooting this weekend, so I should be able to publish the monochrome article latest by Mid Next week. Robin Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02572566037297158455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-18611092025002255222016-08-25T04:53:16.128+08:002016-08-25T04:53:16.128+08:00Thanks for the quick reply Robin. Also thanks for ...Thanks for the quick reply Robin. Also thanks for such a great review as other reviews did not really show the capabilities like your articles. Any estimate when you might publish the monochrome article as looking to upgrade my phone in next 2 weeks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04049595073945422693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-47502183826544301102016-08-25T00:07:49.918+08:002016-08-25T00:07:49.918+08:00Hey Martin,
The shutter is silent (there is a fak...Hey Martin, <br />The shutter is silent (there is a fake shutter sound, which I turned off). In theory there should be jello effect (elongated moving subject, due to the sensor being shut down line by line to emulate closing of shutter, hence if the subject moves faster than the shutting down electronically speed, the jello happens). However, I have not encountered any of these problems yet, maybe I just have not shot that many moving subjects. Robin Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02572566037297158455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-57507315872208115912016-08-25T00:04:05.406+08:002016-08-25T00:04:05.406+08:00Hi Robin, silly question maybe but is the shutter ...Hi Robin, silly question maybe but is the shutter silent or can it be made silent. Have an iPhone5 and simply muting the phone mutes the sound of a shutter. When you say electronic shutter I assume this means not mechanical but in this case is it a progressive scan and can fast motion - i.e. propellors or a moving car result in odd motion effects?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04049595073945422693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-17968740897479593902016-08-24T15:28:02.028+08:002016-08-24T15:28:02.028+08:00Hey Mortyb,
No worries! Thanks for the kind words...Hey Mortyb, <br />No worries! Thanks for the kind words. Robin Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02572566037297158455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-57778792172628132502016-08-24T15:24:57.841+08:002016-08-24T15:24:57.841+08:00Considering these are coming from a smart phone (a...Considering these are coming from a smart phone (and a talented eye), the image quality is AMAZING. Really stunning. Thanks for a different write-up.mortybhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12129781713342011205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-5887860135525407422016-08-24T12:09:21.903+08:002016-08-24T12:09:21.903+08:00Now here comes the question, if you come home with...Now here comes the question, if you come home with 100 images from photowalk, will you process the images and optimize them one by one? Assuming you spend 5 minutes on each image, that still will take you 3 hours in total! <br />For a smartphone, I'd just stay with JPEG. For serious photography, I have my Micro Four Thirds gears, with Olympus Viewer 3 that takes care of all the important optimisation for my RAW files. Robin Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02572566037297158455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-23293452320756995422016-08-24T12:05:56.234+08:002016-08-24T12:05:56.234+08:00Hey Ramiro,
I see where you are coming from now. ...Hey Ramiro, <br />I see where you are coming from now. <br />The advantage of shooting RAW is the flexibility of processing the image the way you want it. Also the abillity to change white balance and recover some shadow and highlight details of over or underexposed image to certain extent. However, the person doing the RAW processing must know what he is doing. In most cases (like 95% of the consumers who think they know how to best process RAW) the JPEG processing is superior than user processed RAW. <br /> <br />If you take a closer look to that same link, on the RAW image if you hover the comparison to the extreme corner (top right corner) you sill see that the Chromatic Aberration (Purple Fringing) was not corrected. It was completely gone in the JPEG. Same with other smaller inconsistencies there and here because the person who did the RAW processing did not go through the entire frame and correct part by part, while the smarter JPEG algorithm analyses the whole frame and apply corrections and optimisations when necessary. I do not necessarily think that the overall image is not as sharp as RAW, in some parts of the frame, the JPEG appear better with greater detail retention. Another very crucial thing to note, at the "zebra lines" directly above the Bottle, you will see there is appearance of Moire (rainbow color pattern), which is completely gone in JPEG. If the person doing the RAW conversion takes into account of Moire, CA, and other factors to balance details, sharpness and reducing noise, I do not think the results will be that superior to the JPEG. <br /><br />Nonetheless, the JPEG algorithm is not consistent scene to scene, and in different situations, I admit RAW processing is superior. However, in this particular case you presented, my preference goes to JPEG. Robin Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02572566037297158455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-12395926799462234072016-08-24T11:53:44.349+08:002016-08-24T11:53:44.349+08:00PS. this the IQ comparision (JPEG vs RAW) I was re...PS. this the IQ comparision (JPEG vs RAW) I was referring. Both are base ISO, the RAW images are definitely noiser but the fine detail and the fine grain is just amazing. ---> https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr20_0=huawei_p9&attr20_1=huawei_p9&attr21_0=64&attr21_1=82&attr22_0=daylight&attr22_1=daylight&attr26_0=jpeg&attr26_1=raw&normalization=full&widget=365&x=-0.6171428571428572&y=0.23575444635685605Ramiro Garcíahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135186680444323663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-39551165568496132312016-08-24T11:49:20.153+08:002016-08-24T11:49:20.153+08:00Thanks Robin! I have to agree on the last part. So...Thanks Robin! I have to agree on the last part. Some times I find very hard to calm down the inner engineer inside me, specially in this kind of products where... well, they are the one selling "magic revolutionary photography" without really disclaiming or even hinting what the hell they are really doing. Huawei is not a big brand in my country and while cheaper than an iPhone, the phone is still on the expensive side. <br />Looking forward the rest of the hands-on review, I hope someone on huawei reads the attention and worldwide reach your blog has and gifts the review sample to you :)Ramiro Garcíahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135186680444323663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-4809597088418477172016-08-24T11:07:35.772+08:002016-08-24T11:07:35.772+08:00Hey Ramiro,
Thanks for the kind words. If you cov...Hey Ramiro, <br />Thanks for the kind words. If you cover one of the two lenses, the camera will warn you do not block the lens. I tried shooting with both PRO and Auto mode and found that the results are very similar. The advantage of having a black and white sensor is to add "structure" and boost the fine grain detail, in real life situation when you do not zoom into 100% view you will not see much of a difference at all. <br /><br />No, I disagree that shooting RAW will give you that much more sharpness. RAW is RAW, and even if I process it myself, I might see a little better fine detail retention, maybe a little sharper but it will not be a world of a difference, trust me. In fact the camera's JPEG processing is already doing a great job at optimising details. Yes, the noise reduction is an issue, but having said that, as long as I do not shoot crazy ISO numbers I should be ok. At lower ISO settings the noise reduction does not get in the way to the sharpness and details. <br />Huawei is not giving much information about how the dual camera technology works. We can only speculate and try our best to "reverse-engineer" the process but honestly, to me, at the end of the day it all comes down to what the camera can do for me, and what I get out of the system. Am I happy with the photos? Will the camera on the smartphone satisfy my needs? Do I enjoy shooting with the smartphone? Answering these questions are more important than finding out how the camera works. <br />I am sure some scientists/tech-freaks will take the cameras apart and figure it out some day. Robin Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02572566037297158455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-28016411858267088802016-08-24T10:26:30.261+08:002016-08-24T10:26:30.261+08:00Hi Robin! Nice blog you have here! Cheers from Gua...Hi Robin! Nice blog you have here! Cheers from Guadalajara Mexico! :)<br />I'm hopping you can help testing a couple of things on this phone that I have read over the internet and that NO ONE seems to be testing. ( and I know I know you already said you are not the technical guru )<br />The rumor I try to put to rest says that the "B+W + Color merge" ONLY kicks in in AUTO mode, I read it might not work in PRO mode, not even in RAW. Can you think in a way to verify this? Maybe tape one of the lenses and see if the lack of extra information affects IQ? RAW data seems to get WAY more sharpness, and you're noise reduction complains will go away. It will be really impossible to understand that those benefits come with the lack of combining the two sensor data.<br />I'm looking forward everything you do on this phone! So far it looks amazing in your experience hands, some of the samples here could easily be hidden in one of your MFT reviews and no-one would have known :). Thanks!<br /><br />Ramiro Garcíahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135186680444323663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-50940574118944223962016-08-22T23:56:48.503+08:002016-08-22T23:56:48.503+08:00No worries. I shall test other features first, eg ...No worries. I shall test other features first, eg monochrome, HDR, light painting, etcRobin Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02572566037297158455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-29194574254967143082016-08-22T23:35:57.913+08:002016-08-22T23:35:57.913+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Heinrich Ilmari Rautiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03507314054385166724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-23982119008776603442016-08-22T23:35:47.020+08:002016-08-22T23:35:47.020+08:00Thank You for review!
+1 who hopes you will test a...Thank You for review!<br />+1 who hopes you will test also the raw...Heinrich Ilmari Rautiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03507314054385166724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-7545455409630899922016-08-22T22:44:55.184+08:002016-08-22T22:44:55.184+08:00Hi Michel, if what you say is true, then that also...Hi Michel, if what you say is true, then that also answers a YES to my question as stated in the title: is this Huawei P9 a photographer's smartphone? <br />If you have not realized, this is a "photography review" of the phone. I understand not everyone who uses the phone is a photographer, but I am exploring the possibilities of what if this phone is to be used by an actual photographer? Can the phone deliver?<br />For everything else you need or want to know about the phone, there are many other reviews available out there. I will surely not want to be redundant and post the similar findings as these other more qualified tech reviews!Robin Wonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02572566037297158455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19035680.post-88088854018832549672016-08-22T21:11:45.626+08:002016-08-22T21:11:45.626+08:00Nice! very good for selfies or a pic of your dog i...Nice! very good for selfies or a pic of your dog in the garden, the problem is not the camera but what your eyes see, there are incredible pics made with smartphone but it is the minority for a simple reason, those owners are not interested in photography,they just want to take a pic... ( and qwick select an apps in Instagram to change the appearance) :-) <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10054805708660667397noreply@blogger.com